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What is the ultimate goal in tuning? Am I trying to get the primary resonance frequency to be the same as the secondary with streamer loading

That is usually the best you can do. Better would it be to have the operating frequency, which is either the upper or the lower pole in order to achieve zero current switching, to be the secondary res with streamer loading. That is impossible to achieve exactly, since the poles never are equal to the primary or secondary res frequency.
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or am I trying to get the lower pole to be equal to this?
As stated above, the res frequencies of either the primary or the secondary are never pole frequencies. This is due to the coupling. The larger the coupling, the more the poles move away from the res frequencies.

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In lower pole operation, does it run at the lower pole frequency or the resonance frequency of the primary?

It runs at the lower pole.

The possible best tuning is when primary and secondary resonances match. When secondary res frequency drops below primary res frequency due to arc loading, then it is possible, that the coil switches to upper pole. The probably easiest way to avoid this is to tune the primary so low, that secondary res frequency never drops below primary res frequency even at the strongest arc loading.

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One way to add in scaled primary current:  Add a third primary CT output stage (or entire third CT) with its own adjustable burden resistor (or fixed burden resistor followed by POT to reduce voltage)...
That's a very neat way to measure the top voltage. You can even measure the arc current when you scope primary and secondary current:

Iarc = Isec + Lsec*C*d2Isec/dt2 + M*C*d2Ipri/dt2

Lsec, M and C are the secondary inductance, the mutual inductance and the top load capacitance respectively.
The main problem is, that the first 2 terms are large and almost cancel each other, so that the result is susceptible to measurement errors when the arc current is small. But the measurement is much simpler than having electronics on the top load.

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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: Oversized QCW
« on: July 08, 2023, 01:57:32 PM »
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Your model of R/C phase shift makes sense, but I wonder if modeled R is too high?

When I decrease the R in the model, the phase shift for each R/C circuit decreases but also its voltage attenuation. In effect the arc lengthens and that almost perfectly cancels the reduced phase shift. The total shift remains about the same.

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That seemed like a good guess.  However, now that my coil is repaired (much more work than I'd hoped given extensive damage to one half-bridge), I experimented with initial ramp.  Back to buck-converter operation inside, with warmer June temperature, arcs are much straighter as with phase-shift before failure.  I tuned to make more of that initial hump down to none.  Made very little difference.  Then tested outside, at roughly same or slightly higher temperature, around 23C.  Much more curved and a bit more branched.  Occasional very straight arcs, but mostly curved down to ground.
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I also experimented a bit with precision of centering breakout point.  Made little if any difference.  Even when a bit off-center, curvature direction is quite random, not always towards or away from closest top load edge.

Thank you for running an experimental check on these ideas. Doesn't look good for them.

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Yet another speculation:  I've noticed that several other QCW coilers report the same behavior I see: More curved arcs outside compared to inside.  Perhaps the key factor is uniformity of air temperature and humidity.  Especially in urban environments such as mine with buildings and trees round, even subtle breeze has randomly varying velocity (speed and direction).  Surface temperature varies due to sun-heated asphalt to lighter concrete to repetitively-cool damp lawns.  Even if arc growth is fast compared to wind speed, wind and surface temperature may leave significant non-uniformity in air temperature.  That may cause arc bending towards pockets of warmer air where breakdown voltage is slightly lower.

Qualitatively, temperature gradients make a lot of sense, since they are also density gradients which affect breakdown voltages. I've tried to get some numbers on the magnitude of the effect and arrived at radii of curvature to be twice the inverse of the relative temperature gradient (if the gradient is orthogonal to the field). So if, e.g., the temperature would rise by 3 C / m, that would amount to about a 1% change in density per meter. Twice the inverse would then be 200 m, which is a lot more than you see. The assumption, that goes into the calculation is, that the arc grows into the direction of the biggest average E/ρ (ρ being the density of the air).

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There should be 3, the upper and lower ones the poles.
Uspring:  Is that a typo?  Should be 2 peaks, the two poles.
Yes, there are 3 ZCS frequencies but only 2 current peaks.

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If you have a sine generator, connect it to the input of your coil and look for current peaks. There should be 3, the upper and lower ones the poles. The width of the peaks should give you an indication of primary losses due to the winding or the ESR. Dunno, though, if ESR is power dependent.

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Steve Ward has built a 160 kW QCWDRSSTC: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kickermagnet/15705193211/
It creates 11 feet arcs, runs at around 350 kHz with 20 ms burst length. Steve mentioned, that arc length and branching didn't live up to his expectations. I think, that probably the branches contribute to the lower than expected total length. He experimented a bit with a higher frequency and found, that this seemed to reduce branching.
Another experience he made, is, that under the severe arc loading the upper pole ceases to exist. His explanation was along the lines of this post: https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=113.msg15012#msg15012 . He observed a decline in primary current followed by a jump down in frequency to the remaining lower pole. He was able to avoid this by increasing the coupling.

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2. If there is not much leakage inductance to begin with compared to the magnetizing component due to high coupling, won't the current increase be modest? This was what I was wondering from the start.

When you drive a DRSSTC with a frequency close to one of its poles, its input will look like a serial tank. The resonant frequency is the pole frequency and added in series to it is a resistor, which accounts for all the losses in the system, the most important loss being the arc load. You can then assign an effective primary Q to this tank, which will describe the voltage-current ratios near the pole and its resonance behaviour.

The current increase depends on the effective primary Q. The primary Q is proportional to 1/k^2, is dependent on the secondary Q due to arc loading and also on tuning, in particular the difference between the secondary resonance frequency and the frequency the coil is running at. If you have a large k, a big arc and are in tune, primary Q can become very low. In that case you won't see much of a primary resonance. As said, this serial tank approximation is valid only near the poles, e.g. when you have ZCS on both legs. That's what you probably have at full power.

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The primary winding looks like a lossy inductive load to the bridge. Lossy, because energy is drawn by the secondary coil. The MMC is added in order to cancel out the inductive part of the primary impedance. This has 2 advantages:
1. You can achieve zero current switching
2. You can input much more current for a given input voltage, since the reactive part of the input impedance is cancelled. So you can have both many primary turns and large primary currents, whcih produce a strong field to drive the secondary.
What kind of feedback are you using?

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But my friend believes that sword arcs with a length of more than five meters have already reached a very serious degree of detuning of secondary frequencies

Moving away from resonance is a problem particular to lowly coupled coils. With a high coupling, the coils act more like a standard transformers than as tanks and the voltage depends on the turns ratio of secondary to primary and the coupling. Resonant amplification of voltage plays a minor role. Also keep in mind, that long arcs draw very much power from the secondary tank and so the Q of it is quite low. Not operating at resonance still involves a penalty, but the high coupling compensates for that.

But QCWs can work successfully with a somewhat lower coupling, when utilizing upper pole operation. You can tune the primary somewhat below the secondary and start the coil on the upper pole. This requires extra electronics to force start it there, since primary zero current switching will usually start at the lower pole if the coil is tuned like this.
What will happen in this mode of operation is, that the operating frequency, i.e. the upper pole, will be much closer to the secondary resonance frequency and follow it downwards as the arc capacitance increases. The important quantity determing the power transfer between primary and secondary is the difference between operating frequency and secondary resonance frequency. This difference is kept low by this method of running the coil.

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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: Oversized QCW
« on: June 30, 2023, 05:08:48 PM »
I'm also puzzled about the temperature and/or humidity depencies of the arc curvatures. Particularly, because these quantities are scalars and don't directly imply vectorial effects, such as arc directions. But they might modulate other effects. I will speculate a bit:
Candidates for arc direction causes are the ambient electric and magnetic fields. Slowly growing arcs are particularly susceptible to these.Consider e.g. a 2 m long arc grown in 20 ms, such as from Davids coil. It lengthens at about 100 m/s or about 0.1 mm per half cycle of its frequency.
Now suppose, the arc bends with a 1 m radius of curvature. That implies, that for each 0.1 mm step, the angle of the arcs direction has to change by 0.1mm / 1 m = 0.0001 radians. The direction of the electric field near the tip is straight ahead, changed a tiny bit by some externally caused surrounding field. The straight ahead compnent of the field is in magnitude near the breakdown field of air, i.e. 30 kV/cm. But to change this field in direction by 0.0001 radians, an external field of strength of only 0.0001*30 kV/cm = 3 V/cm is necessary. This kind of QCW arc is really a field probe.

The strongest fields surrounding the TC are the top load electric field and the primary and secondary coil magnetic field. The primary and secondary coil magnetic field lines can only cause azimuthal or spiralling direction components, which don't seem to happen. From the videos it is a bit difficult to tell.

The top load electric field is definitely strong enough to influence the direction of the arc, but shouldn't it cause the arc to seek a direction away from it?
I've run a simulation of the arc with my arc model. In the diagrams below the voltages of the top load (red) and along the arc (green) are displayed. In the first diagram the arc voltage near the breakout point is shown. In the second diagram the arc voltage near the tiip is displayed.





The arc resembles a phase shifting transmission line. The phase shift in the second diagram between the voltages is near to 180 degrees, so there the top load will bend the arc towards it. As from the statements above, this tendency is small and will cause only a slight bending, the major directional influence still being the arcs charge right behind the tip, which will tend to keep it straight.

Davids setup is nearly axially symmetric, so the arc has to have a reason to go anywhere except straight up. The effect I've described works only, if the arc is already off axis, since an external field can only bend the arc, if it is not parallel to it. I believe this might be caused by the initial bump in the primary current as shown here: https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=1950.msg17719#msg17719
This is different than in the diagram https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=2397.msg18480#msg18480, where the bump is much smaller. The bump might be causing a jump start of the arc, which will give it a more random initial direction from where it can bend from. This is very speculative, but might explain the observed straighter arcs seen with the new driver.
Another difference might arise from the ambient temperature. A higher temperature will lower the air density and thus reduce the breakdown voltage. That will change some arc properties but I'm not sure how that affects arc curvature.

Edit: replaced the first diagram with a corrected version (the original one was taken with a wrong time range)

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Here's a magnified view of the arc charge at the time of the ground strike.



It looks like there is an increasing DC current after the strike, suggesting a heat up process. Possibly the aluminum foil temperature is large enough to become a prodigious source of electrons like a vacuum tube cathode. Since the conductivity of the arc is limited by the number of electrons and their speed (around 100 km/s at the typical fields), extra electrons coming out of the foil might increase conductivity during positive voltage half cycles. Too many extra electrons won't help though, since they will create a negative charge cloud near the foil preventing further electrons from leaving of the foil. But the space charge will reduce the field and decrease the voltage drop near the foil during positive half cycles. During negative half cycles that effect won't appear, since the extra electrons will have returned to the foil.
I'd expect a smaller effect for an electrode, that is more massive and isn't warmed as easily and perhaps one with a larger electronegativity.

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I would have liked to check arc power against power transferred from primary to secondary by
P = ω * M * Ipri * Isec * sin(phi)
Primary current seems to be logged only as averages. Do you have a non averaged record of the primary current?

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Wow, lots of data and nicely documented. Thank you!  :)
I've been wondering about the flat arc voltage envelopes. Presumably the arc becomes very conductive on the breakout point side, where it had plenty of time to heat up. That reduces voltage drop there. The rather low power factor of the arc points into the same direction. The stronger the dependence of arc resistance on power is, the lower the power factor turns out. An extreme example for this is an arc, which conducts like a piece of wire and then stops conducting (like a piece of wire does). You'd then have a purely capacitive load.
There also seems to be an effect of the space charge of the arc on the toroid. The strongly curved arcs show a very flat or even dropping toroid voltage (as calculated from the toroid charge). The straight arcs display slightly rising voltages. I think the voltages are pretty much the same in reality, but the closeness of a curved arc to the toroid lowers the amount of charge (coming from the top load current) to establish that voltage.
The rectification must somehow be caused by a difference in arc or electrode properties between breakout point region and ground arc landing site. For a perfectly symmetric setup and an AC arc, there shouldn't be any DC component.

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I think the 90 degree turn of the ground arc is a branch. The main arc probably died out quickly and was missed by the vdeo. Ground arcs loose their branches from the main channel when ground is hit due to the loss of voltage.
Wrt rectification: Was the foil grounded?

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Thank you for the info.
In case, you wondered, why I keep on insisting on having to subtract currents for the top load: My measurements were currents between secondary and top load and between top load and breakout point. I just realised, that you measure between secondary and top load and between secondary and breakout point.

The flat secondary voltage envelope is curious. Conventional wisdom would think of a shorter arc being equivalent to the tip of a longer arc and the longer arc would loose some voltage due to its resistance. So a longer arc would require more voltage.

The cause of this not being the case is probably the result of the top loads field. The top load forms something like a half open Faraday cage around the arc, which will reduce the field near the tip of the breakout point. So initially the arc will require more voltage to start as compared to a breakout point far away from a top load. That effect will be reduced once the arc has left the vicinity of the top load.
I've tried to quantify that effect using a simple mutual capacitance model. It shows the desired behaviour but is way too simple to output reliable numbers. Another effect is, that the measured power factor of the arc is somewhat higher with a close toroid than without.

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A very nice measurement and afaik the first one of this kind obtained from a QCW DRSSTC.
The mutual capacitances between secondary, top and arc are indeed hard to handle. JavaTC doesn't do too bad of a job calculating top load to secondary effects. You can e.g. compare secondary top and bottom currents.
The very flat secondary voltage curve is strange.
Are the values in your zip file raw data or did you already subtract arc current from top load current to get net top current?

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I didn't see exactly what the arc  hit for this capture.
It hit a diode  ;)

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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: Oversized QCW
« on: March 29, 2023, 07:15:51 PM »
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I've found that parallel resistance more closely models proximity-effect than does series resistance, though neither is perfect.
Yes, compared to the serial circuit, it adds a frequency dependent term to the serial resistance, increasing with higher frequency. That is probably what you want as proximity and skin effect show the same behaviour.
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The goal is to block all magnetic field penetration through primary winding, as it is solid copper from a side perspective.  That is what makes coupling high.
That is an interesting way to view coupling. Formally it is the correlation coefficient between the fields generated by the coils. It is 1, if the fields are multiples of each other in every point of space. So it is basically a volume effect, with the largest weight, where the fields are highest.

Wrt the curvy arcs: Whatever the top load field may be, I would expect the arcs to head away from the top load, making them more or less straight. Some of them seem to have an almost constant radius of curvature. Curious.
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You are running out of ceiling height quickly.
You don't have an oversized coil but an undersized lab space. Coils can never be big enough :)

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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: Oversized QCW
« on: March 28, 2023, 07:36:43 PM »
Thank you for the schematic.
I've checked my equations and found a problem with them. I started from energy stored in the tanks and have now realised, that this is a wildly varying quantity due to the large coupling. Also the energy content is a dubious quantity, since much of the field is shared by the tanks, so that energy cannot be attributed separately to them. Anyway, after corrections I can confirm your values. (It's hard to argue against measurements)

I'm wondering a bit about the energy loss in the primary. I would have put the resistance causing the loss in series with the coil. That is because the coil voltage is the sum of the drop along the resistance and the induced voltage. Did you make a primary Q measurement before installing the secondary?
For a 50% loss the series copper resistance would have to be about 0.4 ohms. That seems much more, than can be accounted for by skin depth of your copper foil, assuming the current is distributed evenly across its width (maybe a cm or so). MMC ESR would have to be added to this. But perhaps current density varies across the width of the band. I haven't looked in detail at this. Did you consider using stranded wire?

Regarding curvy arcs: Perhaps Mads is right, that the top loads field doesn't matter much. If you're interested in that, you could try a very long breakout rod (perhaps 1m) or place it off center or point it at an angle. Adding extra capacitance to the top likely won't affect tuning very much, since the coupling is so large.

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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: Oversized QCW
« on: March 26, 2023, 06:23:36 PM »
A very cool coil!
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Notice how closely primary and secondary currents track.  Just under 50:1 at start to just over 50:1 at end.  I was initially surprised at this close tracking.  But it makes sense for upper pole with high coupling and matched frequencies.
The set of equations I'm using also suggest that tracking. Detuning effects from the arcs don't affect coil operation much, since the operating frequency is always far away from the secondary resonance due to the huge coupling.
But the equations predict a primary - secondary current ratio almost 3 times larger. Could it be that this has something todo with the splitting of the primary?

I find the curvy arcs rather pretty. But you sure have a hard time aiming them. You do have quite long burst times, much longer than the often used quarter wave line voltage ramps. That might make the arc particularly sensitive to the surrounding fields. I'd expect the arcs to follow the local field, i.e. the sum of the top load field and the arc field. Since the arc tip is charged through a long resistance path similar to a transmission line, significant phase shifts between the local field and the top load fields might occur. That might cause an attraction between the arc tip charges and the top load and lead to a bend back.

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Solid State Tesla Coils (SSTC) / Re: Plasma Toroid
« on: March 17, 2023, 06:47:10 PM »
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I'd like to get a stable 15 torr globe working for use as a permanent display. So far as I can tell people are getting the 15 torr toroid to run without a kicker coil to start ionization.
You might have an impedance matching problem with lower pressure. Ignition will require less voltage, but possibly the toroids resistance will be higher compared to your previous experiments due to the lower pressure. That might require extra turns to get enough power into the toroid to heat it up to plasma temperatures.

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post Re: First DRSSTC SKM100
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Saattvik24
April 15, 2024, 10:05:00 PM
post Re: How to get a GE Yokogawa AB40 Sync Scope to rotate without a powerplant.
[Laboratories, Equipment and Tools]
MRMILSTAR
April 15, 2024, 09:28:50 PM
post Ignitron trigger drive ideas?
[Capacitor Banks]
klugesmith
April 15, 2024, 09:06:42 PM
post Re: First DRSSTC SKM100
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Mads Barnkob
April 15, 2024, 08:46:32 PM
post Re: Game changing tesla coil secondary winding suggestions
[General Chat]
Benbmw
April 15, 2024, 08:38:39 PM
post Re: Game changing tesla coil secondary winding suggestions
[General Chat]
sky-guided
April 15, 2024, 08:23:40 PM
post How to get a GE Yokogawa AB40 Sync Scope to rotate without a powerplant.
[Laboratories, Equipment and Tools]
Bobakman
April 15, 2024, 06:43:23 PM
post Re: First DRSSTC SKM100
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
flyingperson23
April 15, 2024, 06:29:10 AM
post Re: Small-ish 3D printed SGTC via cheap ZVS flyback build, humbly asking a couple ?s
[Spark Gap Tesla Coils (SGTC)]
Michelle_
April 15, 2024, 05:21:53 AM
post Re: Small-ish 3D printed SGTC via cheap ZVS flyback build, humbly asking a couple ?s
[Spark Gap Tesla Coils (SGTC)]
Michelle_
April 15, 2024, 05:15:33 AM
post Re: First DRSSTC SKM100
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
davekni
April 15, 2024, 04:07:54 AM
post Re: Small-ish 3D printed SGTC via cheap ZVS flyback build, humbly asking a couple ?s
[Spark Gap Tesla Coils (SGTC)]
davekni
April 15, 2024, 03:49:03 AM
post Re: Small-ish 3D printed SGTC via cheap ZVS flyback build, humbly asking a couple ?s
[Spark Gap Tesla Coils (SGTC)]
alan sailer
April 14, 2024, 09:46:30 PM
post Small-ish 3D printed SGTC via cheap ZVS flyback build, humbly asking a couple ?s
[Spark Gap Tesla Coils (SGTC)]
Michelle_
April 14, 2024, 07:31:00 PM
post Re: First DRSSTC SKM100
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Saattvik24
April 14, 2024, 02:26:19 PM
post Re: mg75q2ys40 IGBT
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Mads Barnkob
April 14, 2024, 07:20:54 AM
post Re: IKY150N65EH7, is it good for DRSSTC
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Mads Barnkob
April 14, 2024, 07:18:20 AM
post Re: Game changing tesla coil secondary winding suggestions
[General Chat]
Michelle_
April 13, 2024, 06:46:40 AM
post Re: Game changing tesla coil secondary winding suggestions
[General Chat]
Michelle_
April 13, 2024, 04:18:42 AM
post Re: Upper and Lower Explosive Limits on Confined Flammable Vapors at -79 C.
[General Chat]
alan sailer
April 13, 2024, 03:24:20 AM
post Re: Game changing tesla coil secondary winding suggestions
[General Chat]
alan sailer
April 13, 2024, 03:20:46 AM
post Game changing tesla coil secondary winding suggestions
[General Chat]
Michelle_
April 13, 2024, 03:13:22 AM
post Re: Capacitor Blowout
[Sell / Buy / Trade]
lbattraw
April 12, 2024, 09:14:58 PM
post mg75q2ys40 IGBT
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
thedark
April 12, 2024, 08:40:18 PM
post Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
davekni
April 12, 2024, 07:20:30 PM
post Re: Mosfet Buffer Stage Questions
[Beginners]
davekni
April 12, 2024, 07:12:43 PM
post IKY150N65EH7, is it good for DRSSTC
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
ethanwu0131
April 12, 2024, 04:47:33 PM
post Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Admiral Aaron Ravensdale
April 12, 2024, 11:43:36 AM
post Mosfet Buffer Stage Questions
[Beginners]
Egg
April 12, 2024, 12:49:02 AM
post Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
davekni
April 12, 2024, 12:41:16 AM
post Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
davekni
April 12, 2024, 12:22:41 AM
post Re: Capacitor Blowout
[Sell / Buy / Trade]
Michelle_
April 11, 2024, 10:45:53 PM
post Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Admiral Aaron Ravensdale
April 11, 2024, 07:39:30 PM
post Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
flyingperson23
April 11, 2024, 07:24:52 PM
post Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
sky-guided
April 11, 2024, 06:09:30 PM
post UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
Admiral Aaron Ravensdale
April 11, 2024, 12:55:16 PM
post Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
alan sailer
April 11, 2024, 03:40:00 AM
post Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
sky-guided
April 11, 2024, 03:05:07 AM
post Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
Michelle_
April 11, 2024, 02:57:33 AM
post Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
alan sailer
April 11, 2024, 01:44:32 AM
post Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
Michelle_
April 11, 2024, 01:31:40 AM
post Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
OmGigaTron
April 11, 2024, 01:11:00 AM
post Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
alan sailer
April 11, 2024, 12:58:52 AM

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