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« on: April 04, 2024, 12:03:47 AM »
All over the internet and on this forum builders using 11 to 16 turns on their gate drive transformers, Ever schematic I downloaded from hear shows' 15:15:15. I have had others say only use 4 or 5 turns...? I have built several test gdt from 8 turns to 15 turns, they all work well of course the 8 turn loads the function generator more. I have a couple of bridges that were made by Steve ward and on his he only used 4 turns and seamed to work fine.
When I look at all the examples on this site, I mostly see 15 turns. I know it is a balancing act, so is 15 be good...? I have wound mine with 8 turns and going with that for now.
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« on: April 01, 2024, 06:03:54 PM »
I have one large area gdt wound following instruction on this site, it has one primary and 4 outputs as in the picture. If not using a pulse-skip driver needing two GDTs, one is fine. However, it is best to wind the one with four twisted pairs, not just three. Primary is four parallel windings, one wire from each pair. Secondaries are other winding of each pair. If you have already made two GDTs with two twisted pairs each as in my tutorial, that works just as well as a single GDT with four twisted pairs.
Thanks very much, I feel bad bugging you guys and really appreciate having accurate info. All the gdt I have made were just for testing, I want a little bigger wire than cat5 for the final. Thanks again I'm on final assemble and testing.
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« on: March 31, 2024, 10:31:10 PM »
I have one large area gdt wound following instruction on this site, it has one primary and 4 outputs as in the picture.
I have also wound two individual gdt as described by davekni each has one primary and 2 outputs.
Is it still the best to go with the two gdt one for each 1/2 bridge. The reason I ask is I have seen both ways.
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« on: March 26, 2024, 01:50:42 AM »
Very nice looking gear, I was wondering on your primary, it looks like your connected to the outer and the inner. How are you moving the tap, as I don't see any.
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« on: January 09, 2024, 05:31:30 AM »
Really looks nice, bet you can't wait, I can feel the tension. What was the deal on the caps in the pictures, your meter was measuring a .035 and showing .086 which would have been ok for 4 in series..? Did you also change your mind on which caps to use..? Really hope to see first light, that is really nice build.
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« on: January 03, 2024, 07:06:37 AM »
It depends on the size of the coil. With a given secondary Fres, larger MMC and fewer primary turns means lower primary impedance, and vice versa. For example, kaizer's drsstc 3 has a 800nf mmc and 8 primary turns, making it on the higher side for that size. A similar size coil has 400nf mmc and 12 primary turns, making it quite high impedance. Low impedance would be something like 1.5uf mmc. On my medium tesla coil, I started with 300nf mmc, which was too low impedance to get good results, so i reduced it to 100nf and got better results. I'm by no means an expert, but I'd say look at the number of primary turns. <4-5 = low impedance, >7-8 = high impedance. Something like that.
Ok, that is ball park, thanks.
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« on: January 03, 2024, 04:53:41 AM »
Traditionally, you want to set the on time so that the coil turns off right around the OCD trip point. For a coil with higher primary impedance, this will mean higher on time, as current rises slower. Usually, lower current/voltage coils will use higher on time to get the same spark length as a higher current coil. Anything over 400-500us is typically done with pulse skipping. This can get you crazy long arcs (see: but also makes music sound a lot fuller, especially bass (see: vs my coil https://youtube.com/shorts/Ns2FfKgEC-c at 1ms with half the onetesla's bus voltage). To do this, you need a pulse skipping driver (or really high impedance primary), good igbt/primary cooling, and beefy igbts for your coil size. Id say set your ocd to at most twice the max continuous current, as opposed to around 4x which is common for lower on time coils. You probably wouldn't want to run high on times with a single to-247 bridge either, due to its low thermal mass. Single board coils like the onetesla often are restricted to <100us as they don't have an OCD, so any longer will allow the current to ramp up high enough to kill the igbts.
The coils are awsom by the way, love lightning. Thanks again for the tech nuggetts
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« on: January 03, 2024, 04:45:35 AM »
Traditionally, you want to set the on time so that the coil turns off right around the OCD trip point. For a coil with higher primary impedance, this will mean higher on time, as current rises slower. Usually, lower current/voltage coils will use higher on time to get the same spark length as a higher current coil. Anything over 400-500us is typically done with pulse skipping. This can get you crazy long arcs (see: but also makes music sound a lot fuller, especially bass (see: vs my coil https://youtube.com/shorts/Ns2FfKgEC-c at 1ms with half the onetesla's bus voltage). To do this, you need a pulse skipping driver (or really high impedance primary), good igbt/primary cooling, and beefy igbts for your coil size. Id say set your ocd to at most twice the max continuous current, as opposed to around 4x which is common for lower on time coils. You probably wouldn't want to run high on times with a single to-247 bridge either, due to its low thermal mass. Single board coils like the onetesla often are restricted to <100us as they don't have an OCD, so any longer will allow the current to ramp up high enough to kill the igbts.
Wow, thanks for the education, always learning on this site. What value is considered a high impedance primary. Thanks again
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« on: January 02, 2024, 10:49:10 PM »
I have seen alot of drsstcs interrupters that have a built in 100us max on time, but I see some act like they are pushing their coils at 100us and yet others, like the one I was just reading said he was running at 1000us and going for 2000us on time. My question is some say 50 to 100us and others are running all over the place. I know what on time is, but why is it wildly different. I know other types of coils could be different but these seem to be drsstc. Im almost ready to first light my drsstc and one of the interrupter I have is max 100us on time. (which can be changed) Thank for some insight
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« on: January 02, 2024, 10:33:56 PM »
Really nice build and you gave me an idea for the variable primary tap, I like yours and will be making some for my other coils. Be nice to see it fire.
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« on: December 13, 2023, 09:58:56 PM »
Hopefully this is in the correct section, I guess this could be spanned across a few sections.
Sometime ago I bought a "dawncap" from AliExpress, its finally arrived! The capacitor was sold as being 0.44uf, 6kv and a rating of *presumably* 60a rms current.
Currently (I haven't checked in a few months) there's no real information about these capacitors making them an unknown, hopefully this thread can give some information on them!
My plan is to replace the MMC in my drsstc 3 and put this single capacitor, and slowly ramp up bus voltage/on-time to see if/at what point the capacitor starts to heat. For me this is a simplistic approach, would there be a better way of testing?
They have a complete specification sheet on the net, If I find mine I will post.
Cheers.
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« on: November 26, 2023, 05:14:20 AM »
I see the on board MMC has bleeder resistors and my upgraded MMC doesn’t. Maybe startup IS the issue after all?
-Matt
This is what is tried to be fixed with a 10K resistor across the inverter output, to get rid of any residual charge that could confuse the logic at start of a pulse, not just start-up, but it would sound sputtering and unstable.
Did you take a look at all gate driver resistors, TVS and diodes from GDT to IGBTs? Many components can fail "half" at IGBT failures, like gate resistors going from 10R to 100R-10K and you get all these weird behaviours from differently damaged components in the drive chain.
Hello all, enjoying the chat, where (and I looked) would I find more info about the 10k resisitor and what problem it might fix. I know it's not necessary 10k.
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« on: October 22, 2023, 10:11:06 PM »
You need to supply much more information in a thread and preferable with pictures of the setup you are asking about.
I did touch this subject lightly, if you scroll down to "How to choose coupling coefficient between primary and secondary coils" in https://kaizerpowerelectronics.dk/tesla-coils/drsstc-design-guide/secondary-coil/
Actually found what I needed, was not looking for coupling coefficient yet, just the distance between the primary and secondary so it don't arc over at whatever height I put it at. You have a load of info on your site must have taken long time to acquire. I will post some pictures after I wrap the primary. Thanks for the link. I sent a picture of the gap in question, as I have seen this gap all over the place and sometimes wrapped around the secondary of drsstc.
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« on: October 21, 2023, 03:14:45 AM »
What space should I be using between primary and secondary of my drsstc. Found it, looking at all the other examples of drsstc, duh
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« on: October 03, 2023, 03:07:31 AM »
Been following this thread, could you post a picture of your setup...? Thanks
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« on: September 30, 2023, 07:32:22 AM »
Hello again, Dave, just getting down to doing a final wind of my gdt and looked a yours and madds and like the wrap method. One question, on one core only had 4 windings and the other 11 wraps, how should one go about picking a number to wrap. I was just going to go for about half, but is their any good numbers. I usually make a gdt and test it, by checking the input and output at the frequency of my coil looking for the best response per wrap method and core. Most people wind more turns than needed just for margin. Down side of more turns is higher leakage inductance. Requires higher gate resistance to avoid excessive overshoot, slowing down Vge rise and fall times. Down side of too few turns is core saturation, which causes more serious problems. That's why people error on the high side. However, if calculated or measured accurately, there is no need for extra turns.
Given your prompting, I just added a GDT turn calculation post to my GDT tutorial thread: https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=1854.msg19355#msg19355 Please let me know if it needs any further clarification.
This project has went slow for me, found out I have four different cancers and been getting them removed. Little stressed out at times. Thank every one on this site, I always worry that some of you all will disappear from the site before I get mine running. Sorry about your cancer recurrence. Hope that doesn't repeat. I'll intend to be around for a while yet. My thyroid cancer is not too likely to show up again.
Thanks for all your help, will check out the calculator, I spent all day and night winding, testing, rewinding and more testing. Hope yours stays away. The best thing I bought lately was a amplifyer for my sig generator make a big difference with enough drive to the cores. Later on
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« on: September 30, 2023, 12:32:30 AM »
The winding method with a network cable that is described, is how I did in on my first DRSSTC: https://kaizerpowerelectronics.dk/tesla-coils/kaizer-drsstc-i/ This is a great finished GDT image. Very neatly constructed.
I made a little step-by-step tutorial of how to wind such GDTs, using a half-bridge version for simplicity: https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=1854.msg13949#msg13949
Thanks for the link, that is what I needed. And bookmarked
Hello again, Dave, just getting down to doing a final wind of my gdt and looked a yours and madds and like the wrap method. One question, on one core only had 4 windings and the other 11 wraps, how should one go about picking a number to wrap. I was just going to go for about half, but is their any good numbers. I usually make a gdt and test it, by checking the input and output at the frequency of my coil looking for the best response per wrap method and core. This project has went slow for me, found out I have four different cancers and been getting them removed. Little stressed out at times. Thank every one on this site, I always worry that some of you all will disappear from the site before I get mine running. Latter all
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« on: August 29, 2023, 05:56:31 AM »
How about a split-bolt connector such as: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-1-0-AWG-Copper-Split-Bolt-GOEC-25/310741810
Last night as I was returning to the basement I got your idea and I have many sizes. Working on one now trying to grind it to fit, not much room to work with, also going to try what tjmax showed, same thing though with the spacing. Thank you guys for the help, if not for the top ideas and help I would never have learned all this stuff about coils. I get something made I will post. Thanks again.
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IKY150N65EH7, is it good for DRSSTC
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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ethanwu0131 April 12, 2024, 04:47:33 PM
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Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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Admiral Aaron Ravensdale April 12, 2024, 11:43:36 AM
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Mosfet Buffer Stage Questions
[Beginners]
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Egg April 12, 2024, 12:49:02 AM
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Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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davekni April 12, 2024, 12:41:16 AM
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Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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davekni April 12, 2024, 12:22:41 AM
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Re: Capacitor Blowout
[Sell / Buy / Trade]
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Michelle_ April 11, 2024, 10:45:53 PM
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Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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Admiral Aaron Ravensdale April 11, 2024, 07:39:30 PM
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Re: UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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flyingperson23 April 11, 2024, 07:24:52 PM
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Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
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sky-guided April 11, 2024, 06:09:30 PM
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UD 2.7 OCD LED stays on, no output during inital test
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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Admiral Aaron Ravensdale April 11, 2024, 12:55:16 PM
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Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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alan sailer April 11, 2024, 03:40:00 AM
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Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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sky-guided April 11, 2024, 03:05:07 AM
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Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
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Michelle_ April 11, 2024, 02:57:33 AM
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Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
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alan sailer April 11, 2024, 01:44:32 AM
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Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
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Michelle_ April 11, 2024, 01:31:40 AM
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Re: Plasma Torid - Class E Self Resonant Dual/Stereo - Plasma Torid Build
[Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC)]
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OmGigaTron April 11, 2024, 01:11:00 AM
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Re: Tesla coil safety questions, risk analysis quantified
[Beginners]
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alan sailer April 11, 2024, 12:58:52 AM
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