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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW music with Midi
« on: September 11, 2022, 11:32:31 PM »
Now finally with more power:
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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW music with Midi« on: September 11, 2022, 11:32:31 PM »
Now finally with more power:
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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW music with Midi« on: June 17, 2022, 12:21:24 PM »
@Teravolt: Have you finished your coil? An update would be nice.
I know this thread is a few years old, but the topic name does match my new achievement. After getting rid of my flashover problems, I am now able to modulate the ramp to generate notes. Here is a short preview at very low power (32 V at the bus). The coil works with phase-shift modulation. A full power run is planned, but at the moment the sunset is very late, and I do not want to disturb the neighborhood. I do not use MIDI. The frequency of each note and the duration until the next note is transmitted to the FPGA in the coil via an optical serial communication. 3
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW coil flashover« on: April 25, 2022, 09:41:25 AM »
Short update.
The acrylic ring to increase clearance arrived today. No flashover with initial coupling factor (lower end of primary and secondary on the same height). I have increased the coupling by raising the primary coil 5 mm. With this setting, there was one flashover during 40 sparks. With increased coupling (0.391 --> 0.408) the max. primary current is slightly lower (160 A --> 155 A). The performance of the coil seems to be identical. The longest (measured) discharge was 170 cm. I will go back to (k = 0.391) to avoid further flashovers and I will remove the brass connection clamp at all. Due to the sharp edges on the connection clamp, it is the part with the highest field strength. 4
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW questions« on: April 13, 2022, 10:49:51 AM »
I love the idea to use the feedback comparator as self oscillation circuit. Nice idea!
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Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW coil flashover« on: April 13, 2022, 10:11:33 AM »
I am back at my initial secondary placement! --> It was sufficient. The lower end of the primary and secondary are now at the same height. Calculated coupling is now 0.391. To further isolate the brass connection clamp, I have covered it with a piece of acrylic glass. I tried to increase the coupling even more (moved primary upwards), but this results in flashovers again. Best settings without hitting the OCD: Current waveform: Results: Measured by counting pixels: 148 cm (most left picture) to 166 cm (most right picture). I will order an acrylic ring to increase the clearance between primary and top load. A coupling of 0.411 is possible by moving the primary 6 mm upwards. Perhaps this will be an interesting experiment. It would be nice to produce the same arc length with less current. What do you think about raising the topload 1-2 cm? Is this a goog idea? It will also increase the clearance. What should be the ideal distance between the upper end of the secondary winding and the top load? Based on my low-frequency QCW experiment and other discussions here, extending ramp time much more may lead to increased branching down lower. The arcs are now much more straight without branching. Changed parameters: higher coupling, longer ramp 6
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW coil flashover« on: April 12, 2022, 12:11:06 PM »
The coil is up and running again.
Some thoughts about the failure:
The conclusion is: Ever change a running system, but double check everything. To avoid flashovers I rotated the brass connection clamp. Now the screw head points downwards. At the moment the secondary is only raised by 4mm (coupling: 0.375) instead of 10mm (coupling: 0.35). With a 11 ms ramp from 20 to 85 % a current of 160 A is reached. The OCD trips sometimes. No flashovers due to increased distance between topload and connection clamp. I do not want to fry the IGBTs again, at least not today. Tomorrow I will lower the secondary even more. The goal is to stay below 160 A with ramps up to 16 ms and of course no flashovers. Perhaps I have to isolate the connection clamp as suggested by davekni. Some lucky shots: Arc length is 130 - 140 cm (measured via pixel counting with 30 cm torroid as reference). I hope to improve arc length by increasing the coupling back to the inital value. 7
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW coil flashover« on: April 08, 2022, 10:20:29 AM »Hope your repair goes smoothly! An impressive coil cleanly constructed. The coil is almost back together. Only the IGBTs are missing. Unfortunately the clean construction is a nightmare for measuring and maintenance. All measurements were performed prior bolting everything to the 5 mm aluminum baseplate. In the middle of the baseplate is the h-bridge and on top of it the GDTs with gate resistors and the CTs. The high failure current took out also two PCBs I'm planning a somewhat-similar QCW coil, more of an experiment platform, using 8 TO247 IGBTs. One experiment is to try something that is believed to be ineffective, ramping by skip-pulse. At least I'd like to see in more detail how it fails, presumably by excessive branching. Perhaps run part of the ramp by phase-shifting (or by buck converter) and part by skip-pulse. Very interesting. I would like to hear about your results. Downside of my phase-shift-modulation are the hard switching events. I have distributed the hard switching between the two half-bridges. I have attached the switching scheme. . 8
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW coil flashover« on: April 07, 2022, 10:54:48 PM »
Thanky you davekni for the thoughts and questions.
Yes, very impressive coil! Congratulations on fixing your flashover issue too. Thus you likely don't want to change anything. Still, I have a couple thoughts and questions. In general, I believe QCW coils work better with as high coupling as possible (without flashovers). Thus I'm thinking about alternate solutions.Thanks. My goal of the project was to implement a QCW without a buck-converter with my own FPGA based driver. The size and electrical parameters are close to Loneoceans QCW 1.5 (<-- thank you). Mainly to have a safe starting point for my VHDL adventure. Where are the flashovers hitting primary? Is it always at the highest point where upper end of primary is bolted to lead wire? That connection could be insulated, or even an entire horizontal plastic layer (big washer) could fit (and seal to) the primary coil form just above top of primary coil to block arcs.The flashovers are mostly between the brass connection element (upper end of primary to lead wire) and the secondary and somtimes directly to the top load. Insulation is a good idea. I will keep this on my to do list. Do you get no top arc when a flashover occurs? It is hard to imagine no arc forming for 75% of the ramp when it does form at lower Vbus.I reviewed a video. The top arc is always forming, and my first thoughts were incorrect. Would it work to test 15% to 60% at 333Vbus? That should theoretically behave the same as 20% to 80% at 250Vbus. If it doesn't, perhaps there's something about the high-frequency components of H-bridge output voltage initiating the flashover arc.I have tested 20% to 50% at around 330Vbus prior opening the thread. The result was a flashover in 10-20% of the sparks. With 10mm lifted secondary, 20% to 90% at even 360 V is possible. Today I lowered the secondary 2 mm (lifted 8 mm from initial setup) and everything is still fine. I have ordered acrylic disks with a height of 2 mm each. With the disks, I can adjust the height of the secondary easily. Today I also tried 18 ms ramps with 10 Hz repetition rate. This was too much stress for the IGBTs. All eight are shorted internally and disintegrated partially. Everthing else is fine (gate resistors, driver etc.). Next monday the mouser delivery will arrive. 9
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: QCW coil flashover« on: April 05, 2022, 11:29:00 AM »
Today I have a whole day off only for coiling, I could not wait to test something.
So I lifted the secondary coil with two permanent markers (10 mm) resulting in a coupling factor of 0.35 as calculated by JavaTC. The flashovers went away! Problem solved. Resonat frequency at upper pole dropped to around 403 kHz. Perhaps my thread was a litte bit too early. 10
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / QCW coil flashover« on: April 05, 2022, 10:56:23 AM »
Hello,
a few years ago i build a QCW coil, but never finished the project completely. This week I want to finish the project. Short description of the coil: * h-bride with 8 x FGH75T65SHD-F155 * V_bus: rectified 230V AC mains = 320-350 V DC * Upper pole of the combination betteen primary and secondary: 406 kHz with a drop of about 30 kHz during spark growth * Primary capacitor: 12.4 nF / 10 kV * Peak primary current: 160 A * Ramp form 20 % to 80 % of V_bus via phase-shift-modulation * Ramp rise time 10 - 20 ms * Ramp fall time 1 - 4 ms * Ramp wick time 3 ms at 20 % (flat period prior rising ramp) * Pointy Tungsten electrode as breakout point * JavaTC file as attachment The coil is running very well with nice straight sparks (approx. 160 cm), but only at bus voltages of around 250 V. If I crank up the voltage to the full 340 V, flashovers between primary and secondary coil are present (even with a ramp from 20 to 50% and 20 ms ramp rise time). I measured the field with a nearby oscilloscope probe. The flashover occurs at around 3/4 of the ramp. It feels as if the spark at the top of the coil can not break out and therefore the voltage at the top of the coil rises to much. Do you have any ideas? Should I reduce the coupling (calculated 0.391)? Greetings Gerd 11
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: Fiber optic transmitter for interrupter« on: March 30, 2021, 05:52:26 PM »
I have incorporated the SN75451 in my interrupter circuit.
The SN75451 is an old part (TI data sheet 1967) with for my opinion bad behavior. I had trouble with the high low-level input current of -1 to -1.6mA. Direct interfacing with a microcontroller is not easy. To keep the fiber transmitter off during reset, a low value pull-down resistor (or another driver for the SN75421) is necessary. The SN75451 is very power hungry and also the hottest part on my PCB. 12
Dual Resonant Solid State Tesla coils (DRSSTC) / Re: New DRSSTC with phase adjust« on: February 14, 2021, 04:33:20 PM »
Do you have a schematic of the controller and a manual?
Is the configuration of the CPLD available? 13
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: Rogowski current probe« on: November 08, 2020, 02:56:58 PM »Have you looked at the sensitivity to test currents routed outside the R.C. loop, or threading the loop backwards?I have build a current pulse generator (150A, ~750ns rise and fall-time, 20µs pulse width) for adjustments to the high frequency passive integrator. With this puls generator and two turns of wire, I have tested the influnece of nearby current pulses. Depending of the position the influnece is well noticable (see pictures influence_diy_1...3). With the commerical unit the influence was also noticable, but almost only at the t-piece (see picture influence_prof_1). The resumee is: Keep away with currents from the t-piece. Will we get to see any pictures of your helical winding operation?This was no big deal. I removed the inner conductor of the PFTE insulator and replaced it with the 0.1 mm enameled wire. At the open end I applied a tiny ammount of epoxy glue. After curing the insulator was twisted between to fingers to wind the wire around the insulator. Everything is held together with the heat shrink. What is the low frequency corner of the active integrator circuit?I did not tested it yet. Simulation shows good results down to 1 Hz. 14
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: Rogowski current probe« on: November 06, 2020, 08:37:32 PM »
I have a short update.
A few days ago I received PCBs for a rogowski coil integrator. Additionaly I wound a small coil onto the insulator PTFE of an RG178 coaxial cable. The insulator has an diameter of 0.86mm and the used wire is 0.1mm. The windings are wound without space between the windings. As a protective layer a heat shrink is on top of the wire. The total diameter of the coil is only 1,75 mm. At the moment I only tuned the low frequency range (active integrator with opamp). A test at 50 Hz and around 6 A peak shows the same respones as my professional coil. Both coils are designed to have 5 mV/A output signal. The next step is to tune the high frequency range (passive integrator). For this task I designed a pulse generator (16 µs pulse with 150 A peak and flat top, rise and fall time around 800ns). I found the calibration procedure/waveform in an official calibration document. 15
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: Lecroy Waverunner 6000a - is it worth for hobby use?« on: November 01, 2020, 08:41:19 PM »
Thank you all for your support. I am waiting for some feedback of the seller to some of my questions. Perhaps I will be lecroy scope owner in a few days.
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Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: Lecroy Waverunner 6000a - is it worth for hobby use?« on: October 27, 2020, 07:41:41 PM »
Thank you for your comments.
A connection to the internet is not planned. So very low risk because of the old XP. Do you think 950 EUR is ok for a unit in very good condition (no cracks, good screen no scratches). 17
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Lecroy Waverunner 6000a - is it worth for hobby use?« on: October 25, 2020, 07:29:38 PM »
Hello,
I have the chance to pick up a used Lecroy 6050a (500 Mhz 4Ch). Is it worth to buy this oszilloscope for hobby use (tesla coil)? Is the UI pratical? Perhaps somebody here have such a oszilloscope or used to work with one. 18
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: DIY DC-10MHz optical-fiber-isolated scope probe« on: October 09, 2020, 05:16:19 PM »
This thread is very inspiring. I like the concept to measure small voltages without common mode influence.
I have searched for commercial units and other DIY projects. During my search I found a similar project: https://hackaday.io/project/12231-fiber-optic-isolated-voltage-probe The approach is similary, but they use other circuits to realise the transmitter (fet input stage) and a transimpedance amplifier as light to voltage conversion. Layout and schematic is available. 19
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: Rogowski current probe« on: October 04, 2020, 07:49:17 PM »
Thanks for image processing and the squirrel chase. I had the same idea but no time today.
I also have done the math (with your values) and calculated the same mutual induction as you. The mutual induction value is plausible. With a integrator time constant of 1.7 µs (R = 1700 Ohm and C = 1.0 nF) we have a sensitivity of around 5 mV/A. 20
Laboratories, Equipment and Tools / Re: Rogowski current probe« on: October 04, 2020, 04:21:24 PM »
Here is a picture of the windings of the Ultra Mini probe: Page 19: https://gmw.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/APEC-March-2015.pdf
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