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Vacuum Tube Tesla Coils (VTTC) / Push Pull VTTC
« on: March 28, 2024, 01:10:08 AM »
Hello, I plan to build a Push-Pull Style VTTC, something I couldnt find anyone before doing.
The Circuit is based on a Push-Pull Hartley Style oscillator and a small prototype with a less powerful tube showed some good results in efficiency and power.

I have attached my current schematic I plan to build, if anything looks wrong or anyone has better suggestions about component values please feel free to comment.
For the Feedback Capacitors I plan to use 470pF 15kV 40kVAr Soviet Doorknobs. I am a bit scared of something going wrong and them shorting or worse exploding.

I have also attached my layout plan, the ferrite rods are where the grid pulldown impedence is and the steel ones where the anode chokes will be.

How likely are the Soviet Doorknobs to suffer under this, does their voltage rating look fine here?

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Vacuum Tube Tesla Coils (VTTC) / GU-81 vs. GU-81M
« on: November 14, 2023, 10:42:25 PM »
I have recently bought myself another example of the GU-81 tube family and discovered that its the earlier GU81 instead of the GU81M.

The datasheet shows the tubes internal connection, including 2 capacitors from the filament ends to grid 2 / screen grid.
Mesuing the total capacitance from the Cathode centre tap to Grid 2 my meter shows 900pF of capacitance, the datasheet gives no mention of these capacitors, only that they exist. No value or voltage rating outside the maximum 600V on the second grid.

Is a general VTTC circuit suitable for such a tube, I havent found a reason against it, which also is made confusing with the interchangable use of "GU-81" and "GU-81M".

If you have any experience with the GU81 and GU81M please share it!

Thank you!
janno288 14.11.2023 22:42


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Hello, I am new to this forum, but not as new to Tesla Coils.

So I got a GU-81M Tube to replace 3 PL519 Tubes I ran the coil with previously since they were at the edge of arcing over internally (they have even done that a few times at 3kV).
The GU-81M being a more powerful tube I have not gained the output I had with the PL519s.
The Tube looked brand new, despite some damage to it (an anode support clip wasnt spotwelded on properly and is sitting at the tube base [small enough not to short anything]) and also a surpressor to anode short due to shipping damage (thanks DHL) I melted open.

I am running the tube as a Pentode because I cant get it to function as a Triode (all grids together) or (g1 and g2 together to the Feedback and g3 ground).
When it is run in triode mode, even at 230V input into the microwave transformer and ~5kV on the B+ the tube does not conduct any reasonable amount of current, no oscillation at all.

The tubes output as a pentode is around 15cm, (with the Voltage on the doubler averaging out to a bit over 1kV)
The 1.5kOhm Resistor into the screen grid is way too low and causes the screen grid to melt itself, but it was the only way of getting any kind of output. Using a 1MOhm resistor gets the output to be 1cm, ( with the Voltage on the douber being ~2-3kV)

The Other weird thing is, my Grid leak feedback is using a 100kOhm resistor, since anything under 15kOhm simply does not make the tube oscillate, with 100kOhm I got the largest PP voltage on the control grid.

When the autotransformer is at 150Vac I get the maximum and anything over that does not increase the arc size, infact the tube begins to redplate.

I have tested if my tube could be at fault. I put 500V on the anode and 500V on g2, g3 and g1 to ground.
I mesured the Plate Current (~750mA), g2 current (~240mA). Compared it to the datasheet and according to that it should be good, right?

I know my setup is messy and dangerous, this is only temporary, I just wanted to put it back together quickly today to do some testing after a month of having it dismanteled.

I am looking for answeres for these questions:
- Why is Triode Mode not working?
- Why is my Tube not conducting any current even with 5kV Plate Voltage?
- Why is my Output so low?
- Why does cranking my Autotransformer over 150Vac not increase the output size?
- Is my tube weak? [Its second grid is already a bit molten yet that should not effect it in triode mode]?

Schematic and Setup are attached below.

Thank you for reading!

- janno288, 20.10.2023


 

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