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« Last post by V-Troxi on Today at 02:42:03 PM »
Thanks for the idea. I've thought about using a dosimeter as well. Unfortunately the setup has changed quite a bit so I can't really replicate this fault anymore.
I'm still eager to hear any ideas regarding this concern. And has anyone experienced similar flashovers?
Best regards, V-Troxi
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« Last post by npmarshall on Today at 01:49:09 PM »
Sounds like primary resonance test was w/o CTs and matches JavaTC, so no need to repeat that. Correct, I think the primary resonance measurement is reliable. One other less-likely possibility is an unwanted resonance of on-board bypass capacitors (snubbers) and lead inductance to bulk caps. Very interesting, an unexpected resonance is something I need to investigate. It would explain why even when running with external feedback the output is really poor since the primary is resonating way above the resonant frequency of the secondary at about twice the drive frequency. I actually have left the RC snubbers unpopulated on my bridge PCB and only have the DC link caps and TVS diodes installed for transient control. Does this rule out that possibility then? I currently have no MMC bleed resistance installed and I’m considering trying to add that to see if it changes anything.
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« Last post by davekni on Today at 03:59:13 AM »
Okay I will retry all measurements with burden resistance. Sounds like primary resonance test was w/o CTs and matches JavaTC, so no need to repeat that. Coupled system of primary and secondary will have two resonant frequencies. DRSSTCs typically run at the lower frequency (lower pole). About 7% low due to 15% coupling if two frequencies were initially identical and if I'm running math correctly. LTSpice or other analog simulator is a good way to check expected frequencies for coupled resonant circuits. One other less-likely possibility is an unwanted resonance of on-board bypass capacitors (snubbers) and lead inductance to bulk caps. I've seen two cases here on the forum where that resonance happened to be at 2x operating frequency.
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« Last post by npmarshall on Today at 03:16:44 AM »
The ground wire is visible in the second photo passing through the secondary CT. I am already using a variac on the bus input. The testing has all been done well below full bus voltage.
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« Last post by Rafft on Today at 02:58:29 AM »
I dont see any GROUND wire (?) secodary coil
For untested builds. Its always safer to test at lower voltages. Variac would be nice. Even at 60vbus, DRSSTC can attain a breakout. Never give it full mains voltage just because it fails.
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« Last post by davekni on Today at 01:48:38 AM »
why not use lower permeability material in the first place. Because there are few such materials, and none AFAIK with sufficient saturation flux density and low hysteresis. That is why lower permeability materials are artificially constructed by adding air (or epoxy...) gaps.
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« Last post by npmarshall on Today at 01:47:59 AM »
Dave,
Okay I will retry all measurements with burden resistance. The geometries were all pre-designed with JavaTC before construction and the measured values come out very close to the predictions. Coupling factor is about 0.15. I measured the primary frequency before the bridge was connected by placing the MMC in parallel with the secondary and then connecting my signal generator with a 10k resistor on the output lead across the MMC. The waveform was scoped across the MMC to find the resonance.
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« Last post by davekni on Today at 01:42:14 AM »
A Hantek USB scope I bought a couple of years ago, a Peaktech 3440 and one of those cheap LCR T7 Multi transistor testing tools. For measuring possible CT, LCR meter would be easiest, though might be a problem if LCR meter frequency is too low. 10kHz might be OK. 100kHz would be better. Scope and signal generator will be more reliable. Either way, I'd wind 10 turns of wire around CT core, through the hole where one wire normally passes. Check pins for continuity. Presumably only one pair will connect. For LRC meter, measure inductance of pin pair and of 10-turn winding. Turns ratio will be sqrt(inductance ratio). For scope, connect signal generator to pin pair and run at ~100kHz. Scope waveform across pin pair and then across 10-turn winding. Voltage ratio is turns ratio. Make sure signal generator output has no DC component. Add a series capacitor to make sure. CTs aren't difficult to make if you have cores. Line input common-mode choke cores generally work well. Other salvage cores are not likely to be good. Large EMI filter beads can work as CT cores, but will require more testing to verify. Same core options for GDTs.
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« Last post by davekni on Today at 01:31:51 AM »
Here are some scope shots of (unloaded) current transformers on the primary and secondary at 80 VDC: I'd recommend loading all CTs with burden resistors for all testing. No open CTs. Any unloaded CT adds inductance and perhaps resonances due to CT wire capacitance, so will confuse measurements. Strangely, the primary seems to oscillate at twice what I would expect from the 430 kHz feedback. What is going on here? How was primary resonant frequency measured? If there was an open CT during measurement, that could be the issue. At low amplitude, open CT adds inductance and makes frequency look good. At higher amplitude, CT saturates, so frequency increases. Would be good to enter coil geometry into JavaTC to estimate frequencies and coupling factor etc. That will be close, so point out any issues in measurement. Good luck with debug!
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« Last post by klugesmith on March 20, 2023, 11:59:01 PM »
Someone else can talk about possibility of very high anode voltages in your VTTC fault case. You might get some comfort if you had a dosimeter than can indicate exposure to ionizing radiation. The 1950's era CD V-138, with full scale range of 200 milliroentgens, is easy to buy online. https://www.orau.org/health-physics-museum/collection/civil-defense/cdv-instruments/cdv-138.htmlHere is video of one specimen getting zapped by a dental x-ray generator.
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