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Here is the code (which I know is not perfect)  ;D
And here are a few videos  :)


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I use timer 1 for one note and timer 2 for the other note. For now the signal has no noise.
 If you want I can post my code  :)

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After each pulse I just added delay function  ;D
Holdoff time is 45 us.

4
Thanks for the answers.
I added off time to the code and I don't think the sound quality is much distorted so maybe I'll try it on DRSSC . ???



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I'm using almost identical Loneoceans UD2.7, just with through hole components. In place of optic fiber receiver I'm using arduino nano with optocoupler . Arduino mega sends MIDI messages via bluetooth to an arduino nano (which I use as an interupter).
This setup works perfectly when I play only one note :)

This is a SimpleTesla interrupter that plays MIDI with multiple notes (6, if I understood correctly-   1:40 - 2:30 min)

And this is mine playing 2 notes  ;D

I guess Onetesla MIDI interrupter works the same way, right?
Can  someone post some scope pics of Onetesla output when playing 2 notes MIDI files?

Maybe the OCD will not allow the current to rise too much when the two pulses are close to each other, so could I just reduce on time?

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Hello,
I wrote the code for arduino based polyphonic MIDI interrupter, for my DRSSTC, that can play 2 notes. But I don’t know if the pulses can overlap or be close to each other (like the pulses in the picture)?
Is it safe to run the coil with this pulses?

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Hi, I just want to thank you again for your help and I want to share with you some details about my version of DRSSTC.
Mads Barnkob-I know that the surface of the topload must be much smoother, but for now, I am very happy with these results.
I use an Arduino Nano and an HC-05 Bluetooth module that are directly mounted to the diver board.For testing purposes, I used the android application Bluetooth Electronics that specifies the required frequency and pulse width that the Arduino nano generates. (code (test5-final.ino) and pic of app in attached files)
And to play MIDI files I used the android application MIDI Visualiser.
The phone is connected via a USB-MIDI converter to the Arduino Mega which sends MIDI messages via a bluetooth connection to the Arduino Nano located on the driver board.
The codes are not perfect because I wrote them quickly  ;D
I also modified the code I found on this forum. I've written several versions of the code so I'm not 100% sure what version I'm currently using- version 2 or version 3  ;D
Code BT_SENDING_FINAL is for Arduino Mega and codes drsstc_version_2 and drsstc_version_3 are for Arduino Nano for play MIDI songs.

Some more videos:

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Since my chip (UCC27423) didn't arrive in time I couldn't wait any longer and just inverted the UCC27424 inputs with 74HC14 and also adjust a phase lead a little bit , and now DRSSTC works perfectly. :D
Thanks again for all your help.
Here is some videos.

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Ok then I will buy the UCC27423 chip, it`s better than with 74HC14 and UCC27424.
I have GBU808 bridge rectifier (800V 8A). Is that enough for a 230AC or should I buy another that can handle more current?
I had a FB2510 (1000V 25A) but it burned out when the IGBTs exploded.

10
Can I just invert the input signals (2 and 4 pins of ucc27424) with 74hc14?

11
When buying parts for the driver I couldn't find the UCC27423 chip, so I thought I could use the UCC27424 chip.

How the gate drive can float between enable pulses when enable pins are connected to 9V?

After some experimenting with LTSpice I added a small circuit  (Picture1.png) to improve impulses at the beginning of the input pulse(from interrupter). In attached images you can see gate-emitter voltage (blue trace) and output pulse from AND gate (yellow trace) (second image) , input (blue trace) and output signal (yellow trace) of added circuit (1.png and 2.png) (Vbus 0V). After that I connected 24VDV on the bridge and the coil works  :D
The only problem is that sometimes some pulses are skipping at some frequencies, much like the one in the picture from the earlier post (https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=722.0;attach=4990;image). I don't think it should be able to damage IGBTs at full Vbus. What do you think?
Another question, it may be stupid but I have to be sure. Should I connect the ground to the driver board when it is mounted in a metal housing?
I connected the other end of the secondary to the main ground as well as the IGBT coolers, metal case for the driver board and strike rail.

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Here is some scope images with and without a screwdriver and circuit of my driver (Vge - blue trace). 1kHz 200us on time - input signal. I connected only GDT ,without OCD and feedback CT .
A similar thing with a screwdriver happened before IGBTs exploded. I wrote this in one of my past posts.

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Unfortunately, the switching power supply was not a problem, because when I turned on the coil again at 310VDC two IGBTs exploded  :(
Luckily i had 2 spare IGBTs, and now my problem is the same as before. Sometimes the coil works properly and sometimes it does not. When I touch the feedback input with a screwdriver everything works as it should (Vbus 24VDC). I noticed when I disconnect 24VDC from bridge and touch the feedback input (with a screwdriver) I can hear audible buzz on GDT. And when I remove a screwdriver there is no more buzz on GDT. Then I connected only GDT (without OCD and feedback CT) and the same thing with a screwdriver happens. In attached images you can see gate-emitter voltages with (11.jpg) and without (10.jpg) a screwdriver.


This is written on the loneoceans site:
www.loneoceans.com/labs/ud27
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Note that if you have no input signal in your FB jacks, the driver will not see any feedback, causing the drive to lock up. Here's a scope shot of a GDT output with a feedback input signal (left). But if you have a GDT attached with no signal generator input on the feedback, this will make a signal on the output of the GDT look like the above (right - where the driver doesn't know what to do), and will cause quite a loud audible buzz from the GDT with this associated output per pulse. This sound should diminish greatly with a feedback input signal.


So without feedback , the signal should look like last attached image.  Right?
Maybe my driver board is bad?

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I`m scoping primary current with another separate CT (41 turns connected to 41Ohm resistor).
I've already adjusted phase lead before with proper oscilloscope as best as I can, so now I`m afraid to adjust it again (unfortunately I had limited access to that oscilloscope). First picture that I posted is taken by that oscilloscope.
After some experimenting at low voltages I decide to power bridge at full voltage (310VDC) and the coil didn't work at all (only some small sparks at 7KHz and 9us on time).
Then I replaced switching power supply which powers the driver (24VDC 10A ),because that's the only thing I didn't check, with classic iron core transformer with greatz , some capacitors and 24V regulator and finally the coil works (still skipping some pulses at low frequencies below 100Hz but it does not matter)  :D :D :D
I guess there was some interference between driver and switching power supply  :o
The coil produce around 30cm sparks at 200Apk , 1.5KHz and 30us on time. Given that the secondary is only 23cm tall I think this is a good result.
I'll post a video soon.
Thanks for all your help, especially davekni for the great tips and explanations.

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I found out there was a problem in my oscilloscope (settings) that caused the signal not to display properly  ;D
I have a USB oscilloscope ISDS205B (20MHz, 48Ms) that can measure up to +-60V so I can`t measure voltage at  high side of primary caps  :-\
I fixed the emitter wiring and now everything is almost fine.When I turned on the coil for the first 2-3 minutes everything worked again as before, some impulses were skipped, but after that everything slowly returned to normal.
Here is some scope images after that.
First two pictures- yellow trace is feedback input from CT and blue trace is primary current (1V=1Amp)
Pictures 202,203,204 -yellow trace is Vce from one transistor and blue trace is primary current
Pictures 205,206,207 -yellow trace is Vce from other transistor and blue trace is primary current

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Vbus is 24VDC.
Yes , the third picture is of the current feedback (450:1 on 51 ohm load) and yes , anomaly where the current reverses is repeatable. I think that's what happens when the gate signal have small duty cycle ( second picture).
I didn't know that for double emitter terminals. I'll fix it as soon as I can.
I'm using four paralleled primary wires but i patched them to a single pair of wires right next to the GDT.I shielded all wires with aluminium foil and put everything in shrinking tube.
In my local shop I can only find these caps for MMC so I hope that they ( 68nF 8kV) can handle  4.5 kV peak at 150kHz. I checked all the capacitors separately , with RLC meter , and they are all good.

17
I checked the diodes and replaced chinese chip LT1016 with MAX9013EUA (from farnell). The results are still the same. :(
I also checked phase of CT and phase of GDT.
In attached img can be seen some waveforms (filename of first 7 img is the frequency and on time).
At 1.9kHz and 196us everything is almost good and in attached img you can see what happens at 1.9kHz and 200us.
In last 4 images you can see bridge , driver etc.
Hope this is not too many pictures  ;D

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After my last post  when everything was worked , yesterday when I turned it on again nothing worked as it should. So I just don't know what to do  :(
That's happening from beginning , one day it works and when I try the other day it doesn't work properly. Only works if I connect signal gen.Than I reduced feedback CT turn ratio to 1:450 but results were the same.
In attached img can be seen gate signal ( yellow trace )with CT  connected to the feedback input. ( blue trace - current) It's weird that things get a little better when I touch one of the feedback inputs with a screwdriver  :o
What can cause this behaviour , driver , CT , GDT or something else?

19
At yours suggestion I put a 6 kohm resistor ( I found a few 3w and one 5w and connected them in parallel ) across bridge output and I continued testing with signal gen connected to the feedback input. Unfortunately  the signal began to appear just over 200mV P-P and the signal at the gates was not symetrical. Than I connect CT feedback instead of signal gen and increased the supply voltage to 24V ( also 24V on Vbus ) and the coil works just with not symetrical gate voltages as you can see in attached images. I noticed that the  signal is symetrical at the end where the current (feedback voltage ) is higer. So can i just reduce the number of windings on CT so that I get more voltage at the feedback input?
Are these negative peaks dangerous for transistors?

20
I only use signal gen as feedback input because when I connect feedback CT nothing works( also with reversed wires ). I used 4 turns on my previous core with high AL value (11400 nH/turn²). I'm using power supply with adjustable voltage (14v to 24 v) , so I adjust voltage to somewhere around 17 v to keep Vge overshoots under 30v and I use the same power supply for Vbus. ( 1.5KE27CA TVS is connected across gate emitter). I connect 10Mohm res across every capacitor( 4 strings of 4 in series).

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