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Hi Mads - sorry for being unclear, the ripple currents I'm quoting are the DC bus ripple. The 2 parallel strings have much lower ripple due to the higher L_pri.

I've missed something very important though - the RMS current rating of my caps is only 9A at 200kHz. Looks like 400A peak current was a bit ambitious, but if I go back to 300A peak current, 150us on time the temperature rise is within tolerable limits. More importantly, the effective RMS current is (barely) within spec.

Full coil specs, for completeness:

Secondary 1300t on 100mm pipe, topload is a toroid ~1m from the ground with 500mm diameter
Primary coil: 8 turns, conical, slope ~45 degrees, radius 7cm-18cm. Using full length, inductance is ~15uH.
Inverter: 8x FGY75N60 double full bridge
Bus capacitor: 3x 2000uF, 400V electrolytic
Driver: profdc9's UD2.9

In short, the number of turns on the primary depends on if I use the core or the edge of the cone. The low inductance options (<2uH) would correspond to only 2-3 turns.

Longer term, it looks like I'll have to look at rebuilding the MMC and improving the DC bus. But with the parts I have now, I'll have to current-limit to around 200A to be on the safe side.


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I'm trying to build my first DRSSTC from parts left over from a SGTC.

I'm reusing the secondary sircuit as is, with a resonant frequency of roughly 180kHz. I have 16x KEMET R76TR34704030J 470nF 1.6kV capacitors on hand, which were originally wired in series for a SGTC. I'd like to reconfigure these for higher capacitance and lower primary inductance.

I've been using Mads' handy calculator to try to design my nascent DRSSTC's primary capacitor, and it seems to be very difficult to get the thermal rise under control.

I'm inferring the ESR from the listed dissipation factor tanδ ≈ 0.3% -> ESR= tanδ*X_C = 1.6mΩ @180kHz.

I can't find any values for the thermal dissipation factor though, so I assumed they were about the same as the other Kemet capacitor Mads listed (R76UR3150SE30K), which was 23 ºC/W.

I'm benchmarking everything assuming 400A peak primary current (I have a full bridge of 8x FGY75N60 IGBTs, i.e. each IGBT is run in parallel, for an in-principle 450A of peak current handling), and a crazy overestimate for on time and BPS (200uS, 200BPS)

  • 2 series strings of 8 -> 117nF, L_pri = 7uH, 15C rise per cap, 44A ripple current (!)
  • 4 series strings of 4 -> 470nF, L_pri = 1.6 uH, 3.68C rise per cap, 185A ripple current (!)
  • 3 series strings of 5 -> 282nF, L_pri = 2.5 uH, 6.5C rise per cap, 114A ripple current

My primary bus capacitor bank (3x Kemet 400V 2000uF caps in parallel, in hindsight I should've gone for 450V) is fairly feeble, it can only handle around 40A of ripple current. It likely needs further reinforcement if I want it to survive.

This is my first DRSSTC, so I wanted to ask for a sanity check on these numbers. Basically,
  • Can I get away with configuration (1) as is, or do I need more bus caps?
  • Would I be better off modifying the MMC for a higher primary inductance?

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I've found some alternate IGBTs that seem to do a better job for roughly the same amount:
https://au.mouser.com/datasheet/2/205/DS100526A(IXXH40N65B4)-595301.pdf
I'm looking at getting these for their low on resistance and higher pulse current rating compared to the FGA60N60s linked above,
https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/FG/FGA60N65SMD.pdf

Can anyone advise on which one to go for?

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Solid State Tesla Coils (SSTC) / Re: Mid-Sized SSTC
« on: June 25, 2018, 05:59:07 PM »
In terms of getting the secondary 'good-looking,' it's well worthwhile to build a winding jig out of whatever you have available. Mine was made out of some of my old mecanno, equipped with with a janked-together 555 PWM driver for my crappy motor. I don't know how I would have done it without it (still took 3 nights' work for 1300 turns because the wire kept doubling back on itself)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1l5J9wIa7gPZUM2VoQrz6x1FAlDG1QWEF

The important parts to it were:
  • Clean the PVC pipe thoroughly, making sure to get rid of any stray fibers or dust particles. I didn't do this well enough, and my final coil has some small hairs jutting out that are very annoying and an arc-over risk. Do not wind next to a carpet like I did.
  • Tape the start of the winding down securely
  • Turn the winder on, keeping pressure on the wires to keep the windings tight together
  • Do not let the wires cross over- undo a frew windings if you have to. Make sure to keep tension on the wire with your fingertips - if it goes loose and the wire expands off the coil form, there is no way to fix it other than unwinding and rewinding.
  • If you have any kind of mechanical counter to keep track of how many windings, definitely use it. It's also possible to estimate based on how long the coil is.
  • When done, tape the end wire down with a full ring of tape
  • Keep the windings in place by applying some kind of lacquer. I bought some of this stuff https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/electronics-varnishes-lacquers/8232640/ and applied 3 coats of it as the thing turned on my winding jig. It's not really necessary to get specialist electronics lacquer, I just grabbed it for extra legit-ness.

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Thanks for the advice. I'm leaning away from the linked brick IGBT.

The existing coil's primary circuit is an unholy hybrid of an 4-turn speaker-wire cylindrical winding and an 8-turn 8mm copper pipe conical winding - (originally I was planning on using the copper pipe only, but it had insufficient inductance that I improvised around). I'm aware of the issues in using this - including, but not limited to, induction heating of the central part and the general power losses that tend to happen in stranded wire - so I was planning on reworking the whole thing anyway.

SGTC MMC: One series string of 16x Kemet R76TR34704030J 470nF 1.6kV to form a 29.3 nF @ 25.6kV capacitor bank.

What kind of IGBT configuration would be most suitable for this size of coil? I'm currently leaning towards a doubled full-bridge made out of 8 FGA60N65SMD's (around $50 AUD on Mouser) as opposed to two CM300 units which would set me back upwards of $300 AUD. I know the latter is probably a better investment for long-term performance, but I'm willing to risk some silicon shrapnel.

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Solid State Tesla Coils (SSTC) / The hobo's SSTC
« on: June 18, 2018, 04:17:13 PM »
I've recently had the good fortune to crack open a microwave with a solid state 50N322A IGBT half-bridge power supply. I would very much like to cannibalise its larger parts to make some kind of SSTC. Working off http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/toshiba/GT50N322A.pdf, the switching speeds aren't great, an order of magnitude slower than the DRSSTC grade FGH60T65SHD, but I'm hoping they might be just good enough for a low-power ~100kHz coil (to be achieved using a lot of windings)

I was looking at loneocean's SSTC 1 for inspiration - though my proposed coil will have more than double the windings (and a wider diameter to push up the resonant frequency), the same driver topology should hopefully work.

Before sinking any more thought into this - is this even worth building out, or am I just wasting my time on a project destined for mediocrity?

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I'm currently in the early stages of designing my first DRSSTC, and am at the tricky point of deciding which IGBTs to order. I've noticed that there is a significant price disparity between the TO-247 packaged IGBTs, like https://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/IXYS/IXGH48N60A3D1 versus modules like https://www.arrow.com/en/products/ixgn200n60b3/ixys. Reading the datasheets reveals that the current rating for the TO-247 units drops off dramatically with temperature compared to 200n60 module.

Could I get around this by attaching large heat sinks, or should I bite the bullet and get some proper bricks?

The secondary has already been wound (and used successfully on a simple SGTC) - its resonant frequency is 174 kHz, with a 360mm diameter toroid atop a 50 100 mm diameter, 460mm long 1300 turn secondary. Ideally I'd like to have >40cm sparks, but I'm not exactly sure what ball park I need my primary circuitry in to achieve this.

EDIT: 1am brain wrote down the secondary radius rather than diameter. Whoops.

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