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Beginners / Re: finale design help
« on: February 28, 2022, 12:55:28 AM »
I've been looking for Tesla coil designs in the 2-kW input range but it's surprisingly hard to find just the design and not someone selling a prebuilt coil. Does anyone have any recommendations for designs that are good for starting out, where it is relatively simple so there are as few points of failure as possible. Thank you.

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Beginners / Re: finale design help
« on: February 25, 2022, 08:47:07 PM »
I got the 72 inches from the wattage of the wall plug and the equation L=1.7*sqrt(p). I figured that because the tesla coil mostly just changes the voltage to amperage ratio that the wattage would be the same from beginning to end. I do know that the initial voltage wouldn't be enough to make that long spark which is why I then tried to work backwards and calculate out the voltage that it would need to have, which is where I got the 54000 kv.

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Beginners / Re: finale design help
« on: February 25, 2022, 05:24:04 AM »
Thank you for your advice. It definitely was not a good idea to not try to build and design for the first time Both at once so, I probably will end up building a pre-made design. That being said I am still very invested in trying to figure out why my design did not work and then learning from that.

The way I got to the coupling for the primary transformer was by starting with the wattage and calculating what the spark length would be. From there I used the distance the electricity would have to jump to find the volts. I worked backwards knowing that would be the end voltage I used the recommended coupling from https://kaizerpowerelectronics.dk/tesla-coils/drsstc-design-guide/secondary-coil/ to find the voltage for the primary circuit. I had to figure out the coupling of the primary transformer from the difference between the circuit and my source which in my case where is modeled off of a standard American outlet. 

MRMILSTAR was asking about the capacitance I got there from using the recommended size for the primary coil and the recommended resonant frequency to find the top load. I then used the coupling to get the primary resonant circuit.   

 

 

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Beginners / finale design help
« on: February 23, 2022, 08:47:47 PM »
I am currently trying to design my first Tesla coil. It is very simple, and I know there are ways to make a more optimized design but I'm mainly focusing on having as few points of failure as possible. Even with that, as I've been trying to calculate the exact proportions of it there are a lot of things that seem quite off. For instance, the number of turns on the primary coil seems much higher than I usually see on other coils. And when I ran the design through JAVATC it said that there was no resonant frequency for the primary circuit. Attached is my schematic (sorry that it’s so messy). If anyone can explain the issues I found or knows of any other mistakes in the design that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. 

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Beginners / Re: transformer coupling question
« on: February 23, 2022, 05:22:00 AM »
Thank you very much for your responses but I am still a little confused. It sounds like it's not possible to have two coils with the same number of turns and different inductances but in the equation for inductance (or at least the one that I have been using) it has more factors contributing than only the number of turns. L = (n^2*r^2)/(9r+10h) Where n = umbers of terns, r = Radius, H = height. Given this equation, a coil with h = 6, n = 10, d = 6 would have and inductance of 10.244 uH, while a coil with h = 6, n = 10, d = 60 would have and inductance of 272.727 uH. As well attached should be an image illustrating the initial question. 

 

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Beginners / transformer coupling question
« on: February 22, 2022, 02:21:31 AM »
When using a transformer is it the number of turns that determines the coupling or the inductance? For instance, if you had two of the exact same Coils and one was inducing current to another coil that had twice the terms but the same inductance. And the other was inducing current to a coil that had twice the inductance but the same number of terms which would double the voltage? Thank you.

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Beginners / Re: is resistance calculated by the output or input?
« on: May 22, 2021, 01:19:37 AM »
Like I said above I'm trying to find the impedance of a circuit which requires me to know the resistance of the circuit. But my problem is I don't know whether that means the output or input resistance. 

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Beginners / is resistance calculated by the output or input?
« on: May 21, 2021, 01:17:50 AM »
When trying to find the resistance of a Tesla coil circuit using ohms law should you be measuring by the input volts in amps or the output volts in amps?  I am trying to calculate the impedance of a circuit and to do that I need to know the resistance. But none of the sources I found specify whether it's going off of the input or the output, which is important to clarify when working with a circuit like a Tesla coil which changes the amps to Volt ratio using Transformers.

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Beginners / Re: Secondary Resonant Circuit Size
« on: May 15, 2021, 01:50:52 AM »
Thank you for your response. I am still a bit confused about two things.

 First what you mean by “After a number of cycles, all of this energy will be transferred to the secondary tank.” The way that I currently understand resonant circuits, the capacitor is entirely discharged within one cycle and then recharged at the beginning of the next. Is there a different cycle that you're referring to then the resident frequency?

2nd how is the energy returning from the secondary tank back to the primary tank. I know that the energy can go from the secondary tank to the secondary coil via the ground. But how is the energy traveling backwards into the previous capacity?

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Beginners / Re: transformer question
« on: May 13, 2021, 01:03:08 AM »
I'm still a bit confused why use the transformer to change the impedance instead of just changing the size of the secondary coil So that it has the same impedance size the power main? 

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Beginners / Re: Secondary Resonant Circuit Size
« on: May 13, 2021, 12:03:59 AM »
Is that a spark gap TC you want to build or a DRSSTC or SSTC? The design choices differ somewhat for each type. Wrt to coupling: Usually more is better. It's an engineering challenge to avoid racing sparks or flashovers that often accompany large coupling values. Davekni e.g. has mapped out some extremes: https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=1268.msg9305#msg9305
But that requires a lot of work and knowhow.
I'm just starting out so I'm making a mini spark gap Tesla coil

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Beginners / Re: Secondary Resonant Circuit Size
« on: May 12, 2021, 07:21:35 AM »
Your website is very helpful and the material the charts we're on are exactly what I'm looking for. But despite that I couldn't actually find what calculations you used to come to your conclusions. at least four the optimal coupling ratio of the primary and secondary coils, as well as the recommended resident frequency. If you could either link to those equations or point out if I missed it on the original website that would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

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Beginners / correct coupling calculation?
« on: May 12, 2021, 12:39:01 AM »
How do you calculate the correct coupling Between the primary and secondary coils for a solid state tesla coil?

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Beginners / Re: transformer question
« on: May 11, 2021, 11:49:31 PM »
Sorry I should have been more specific I'm talking about the spark length of a Tesla coil. Does the same hold true in that case?

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Beginners / transformer question
« on: May 11, 2021, 02:13:22 AM »
I've heard around a lot that spark length he's based off of wattage. But if that is true Why does it matter what transformer is used? Because a transformer just changes the voltage to amperage ratio it never actually changes the wattage. I feel like I'm missing something pretty major here.

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Beginners / Secondary Resonant Circuit Size
« on: April 13, 2021, 11:52:24 PM »
I'm trying to build a mini Tesla coil, but I have run into a problem in the design phase. Throughout anywhere I looked I haven't been able to find the proper size for the secondary resonant circuit. I understand that it needs to have the same resonant frequency as the primary resonant circuit but that only has bearing on the ratio between the capacitor and inductor. The only lead so to speak that I have is that the secondary in primary coils work as a transformer but again nothing I've found says to what degree. I have to imagine that there is a point where the secondary coil is too big to work with the rest of the circuit, but I have not been able to figure out what that size is. This seems like a relatively basic question but for the life of me I have not been able to figure it out. So is anyone else knows what I'm missing here that would be greatly appreciated, as this is the last thing I need to finish my design. Thank you.

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Beginners / how do i calculate inductance
« on: August 25, 2020, 12:23:15 AM »
Hi i am an aspiring engineer trying to learn on my own. Although while researching i have not been abel to find an equation to calculate inductance of a coil as well as a spiral. dose anyone hear know of such a calculation or a good resource where i could find one. Thank you.

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